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Who is the more mature person in this argument? So this is between me and my friend, who is the person that handled this arugment the best?
Background story:
I heard from three different people that my once best friend was talking about me. so i confronted her about it... and heres the conversation that went on between us today..
P1; Wow, what kind of a ******* friend are you?
P2; Please, michelle. tell me what i did to you, other than ask me why you talked about me? seriously, i didnt do one thing to you. I heard you talked about me, and i confronted you about it. and i left it at that. So please, tell me whatever it is that i did to you now.
and why are you telling everyone that were all talking about you? i havent talked about you to one person.
P1; yeah... but you talked about me to them and said im lying and all this ****... talk to lauren about it. maybe you can find out the truth and confront the right person instead of me.
P2; Maybe you can know the facts before you start to curse at me. never once did i say that your lying about anything. ur name didnt even come out of my mouth once today, because i have more important things to worry about than this stupid drama ****.
P1; Exactly rachell.. know the facts before you "confront" me about things. seriously rachel i am done with this ******* bullshit and done with all of yous! all you guys do is talk about eachother and its dumb! i have better friends than you guys.. and like always you can go talk about me and then just keep lying about it.. at least i would state the truth about something i did. also, ask lauren some things.. i think you would like to know about them.
P2; Ha! Michelle, your the one causing the problems by talking about me. it came back to me, so i ignored you for a while because i was hurt. i never caused any trouble for you. i never talked bad about you or said anything about you ever. ur the one going around talking about ME and i heard it from a couple different people INCLUDING UR BFF LAUREN. so you caused the trouble, and now your making excuses for what you said, by blaming me. so guess what michelle, i never had time for any drama, and i wont start having it now either. U wanna start drama, bring it on with someone else because i want no part of it or you if thats how your gonna be. Now, you tell me michelle. What kind of ******* friend ARE YOU?
p1; oooo good one rachel... saying that im making up lies to cover yours lie.. nice. almost had me fooled there! the only ******* people i talking about was ******* briana and thats cuz everybody ******* does.. but yk what would i even say about you?! briana ******* talks **** on everyone.. and i think its about time to do something about it.. all 8th grade and this year she calls u a dyke! she says your a whore! and dont believe me rachel, its not like im losing you as a good friend,.. i ******* take you to a phillies game, and all this other **** cause im such "a bad friend" and i get this in return.. alright you *****. dont even bother wrting back cause what you say doesnt even ******* matter to me.. you are just one of them.. and u changed all of a sudden and i dont even know why i should be alive anymore cause i mean all ppl do is ******* accuse me of ****.. even my ******* family! so i dont wanna talk to you because i have enough drama in my life already.
p2; thank you, thank you. i try. and dont play the sob story on me michelle.. i have problems too. im done with all this bullshit. im not gonna stoop to your level and call u a *****, like you called me, because i dont think your one. and look at all the things ive done for you.. so dont tell me im a bad friend and that im a *****. oh and my mom told me to tell u nice language btw.
p1; okay... me too... i think? HAHA my level?! wow your big.. tell ur mommy! hahah! and im sorry i just dont "freaking" understand why ur blamming me.. i didnt do anything. im sorry. and if ur a "more mature person" u will accept my appology.
p2; yeepp, i tell my mommy everything because i love her and at least shes always there for me <3 and i go to her for help when i need it. weve been friends sicne fifth grade michelle, and i dont wanna see our friendship get ruined. but when you go and say things like that TO PUT ME DOWN ON PURPOSE i get a little pissed off. and i do accept your appology, but i dont think you needed to freak out on me like you did.. and if ur a mature person, u wouldnt curse at me.
AND THE SAGA ENDS THERE
so please tell me, based on that conversation, who the more mature person is (p1, or p2) u dont know which ones me, and which ones the other girl.
who handled the situation the best? | | Omg too long to read..sorry ! | Is my boyfriend gay? mature answers only plz? i asked this question last night, but i want to see how it does with a different crowd.
reasons i think he may be gay:
-just recently i discovered a myspace page that he had before he met me, on that page for his orientation it says not sure...i confronted him, he got mad and denied it, he said i was dwelling on it and i need to believe him. then he said his friend created the page and then he just simply said he doesnt know and thats that.
- he's very sensitive, we could be having sex and he'll want me to take it more slow and look him in the eyes and tell him i love him.
- he's clean, he takes at least an hour in the shower and sometimes showers more than once
- he's mentioned that he thinks some male celebrities are "good looking"
- his brother sort of raped him when he was younger ( he tried to stick his penis in his *** but my boyfriend stopped him)
- he's given his male friends a teabag which is where he took his testicles out and placed them on their forehead as a way to embarrass them he says, seems weird to me though.
- im only the 5th girl he's had sex with and he's 25
- his ex was sort of a dyke
- he's not big on giving oral to women, even in the past, but he's big on receiving
- he would do anything his mother told him to, his dad not so much, he hangs out with his mom, goes shopping with her...but he was raised only by his dad
- his dad is a little bi-curious (idk maybe it's genetic)
- he watches a lot of girly shows like designing women, sex and the city and golden girls
reasons i think he's straight:
- i'll notice him checking women out
- he gets turned on very easily with me
- he talks about having a future with me as his wife and having guys
- everytime we break up he goes on myspace and talks to tons of girls, telling them how beautiful they are, but idk, is this a cover up???
- he only owns and watches lesbian porn.
- he says that he can't watch straight porn cuz he cant look at another man's ****
-he likes manly things, like fighting, action, and violent movies and video games.
-he's very protective.
-he gets jealous easily if he thinks im into another guy.
-he's done so much for me and stuck by myside when i put him through so much abuse, both physically, verbally and mentally, so apart of me feels like if he were gay, why devote so much to a girl, why care so much and go to such great extremes for a girl.
idk, im confused. | First I have meet, to my embarrassment, effeminate, sensitive men that were straight.
I work with sexually abused guys, and they for a long time question if they are this or that.
Hence is statement on myspace is normal.
If you want to help him as a person, not your boyfriend, then support him and say you would like to help him find himself.
Suggest he go where there is lot of people of both sexes and all ages.
he can then figure out what turns him on.
However if he wish to hold one to you as his, then you have a more difficult place, and he may not share with you his finding's
bottom line is your prodding will not help his insecurity.
you can only love him and hope for the best. | Is my boyfriend gay? mature answers only plzzz? reasons i think he may be gay:
- he's very sensitive, we could be having sex and he'll want me to take it more slow and look him in the eyes and tell him i love him.
- he's clean, he takes at least an hour in the shower and sometimes showers more than once
- he's mentioned that he thinks some male celebrities are "good looking"
- his brother sort of raped him when he was younger ( he tried to stick his penis in his *** but my boyfriend stopped him)
- he's given his male friends a teabag which is where he took his testicles out and placed them on their forehead as a way to embarress them he says, seems weird to me though.
- im only the 5th girl he's had sex with and he's 25
- his ex was sort of a dyke
- he's not big on giving oral to women, even in the past, but he's big on receiving
- he would do anything his mother told him to, his dad not so much, he hangs out with his mom, goes shopping with her...but he was raised only by his dad
- his dad is a little bi-curious (idk maybe it's genetic)
- he watches a lot of girly shows like designing women, sex and the city and golden girls
- just recently i discovered a myspace page that he had before he met me, on that page for his orientation it says not sure...i confronted him, he got mad and denied it, he said i was dwelling on it and i need to believe him.
reasons i think he's straight:
- i'll notice him checking women out
- he gets turned on very easily with me
- he talks about having a future with me as his wife and having guys
- everytime we break up he goes on myspace and talks to tons of girls, telling them how beautiful they are, but idk, is this a cover up???
- he only owns and watches lesbian porn.
- he says that he can't watch straight porn cuz he cant look at another man's ****
-he likes manly things, like fighting, action, and violent movies and video games.
-he's very protective.
-he gets jealous easily if he thinks im into another guy.
-he's done so much for me and stuck by myside when i put him through so much abuse, both physically, verbally and mentally, so apart of me feels like if he were gay, why devote so much to a girl, why care so much and go to such great extremes for a girl.
idk, im confused. | i would say that he probably is at least curious
i mean...to be fair you are naming alot of steryotypes but if its really confusing you on the issue the best thing to do is sit down and talk over it. He may feel some attraction or maybe its just in your imagination.Sometimes guys are afraid of being labeled "homo" so they try to hide it,which may be why he didnt want to talk over it.
But like i said,talk to him over it,he seems to care about you alot and is turned on by you,so i dont see any problems in this relationship.You may just not wanna lose a great guy :D(as a side note,im not gay i love women) but like i said,talk it over and you should get your answer.
hope i helped :3 | Hate Encounter? I was at the store about 3 days ago with my gf Nichole, and we were walking down the aisles like we normally do when we're together: hand-in-hand (mature-like). Anyhoo, long story short, this totally rude bitchphone has about three of her bitchphone friends with her, and they decide that it would've been funny to shoot derogatory statements our way as we passed each other (you know the like: "Dykes! Dykes everywhere!", "Which one's the man?", "Hey, she can't give you guys"). Me being me, I was about to knock the teeth out of one of the girl's mouth, but Nichole stopped me and said it wasn't serious like that. I disagree, and I really think I should have acted in some way other than letting it go because it really burned me how immensely rude people can be.
Do you think I acted too rashly in this situation or have you ever encountered a "gay basher" before? What did you do? | | It happens all the time... People call me fag, oh look here comes the homosexuals, etc.. The true feeling inside you wants to just scream out and act in a violent way towards them so what your feeling is only natural... your protecting yourself. Just brush it off your shoulder don't even let them get to you. In fact if you have to say anything at all back to them say something nice. Kill em with kindness... They are just trying to make themselves look popluar because they probbably are insecure about themselves or have had problems in the past so they feel the need to make you upset to make themselves in return feel good. If you don't feed their comments with a reaction then they just look stupid lol... I know it may be hard, but really its better then worrying about it... =D I hope I helped somehow | Daddy said you left him because you are a dyke? Wow, my life my life, so my 5 year old little boy was playing with my hair after coming home from visiting with his daddy. My phone rang and it was my girlfriend. Now out of respect for my beautiful guyren being so fragile and not understanding really why their daddy and mommy no long live together, I haven't really explained much other than mommy and daddy's life doesn't work together anymore so we are moving apart but we both love you both so very much! They both know my girlfriend as she has been in my life long before they were born, so they know who she is, so me talking to her and her coming over is nothing out of the ordinary to them! Apparently my son asked his daddy why we don't love each other anymore! My ex-husband's reply was "I do love your mother, but she doesn't love me, she left me because she is a dyke!" according to my daughter! So my sons asks him, whats a dyke and he says go ask your mother! So he does. I told him that it is a very bad name for people who marry people who are the same as them. Like a woman who marries a woman! He said, but your not married to a woman because that would be gross. I don't want two mommies. What in the hell do I do now? I could absolutely just murder my ex for saying that to our son! (I don't mean that literally) How immature can he possibly be? Does anyone have any good books or shows or literature that I can read over that may help me explain this to my guyren. For example is there any guyren's books that may be able to explain this to them? I DID NOT want to tell them like this. I wanted to have a family meeting and discuss this maturely with them so that if they had any questions we could answer them together as a team. I fully believe that just because a divorce happens that two people can still be mature enough to stay friends for the guys and work together raising them! I know he is hurt and I would probably feel the same way, but I explained to him that this was nothing he did and that I am at fault for trying to live a lie and bringing him into it. His pride is very hurt but this to me is inexcusable. Any help would be great! Thanks. | | That is crazy for him to flat out drop the ball on your guyren like that.. No excuse for saying it hurtfully like that, but he said it out of hurt and anger.. Which he is feeling both and very strongly due to the shock and extreme pain he is going through.. He is not only grieving the loss of losing you, but hurt very bad along with his pride due to who you are leaving him for.. O man girl you are in a bit of a bind.. It's sad your guys have to go along for this crazy "ride".. Just choose your words wisely on how you will tell them.. I, myself, don't feel it so natural so I wouldn't want my guys to feel that it's normal, but you on the other hand feel different so just explain to them on how you feel and want them to feel.. You're the momma and your words and actions will impact and mold their little lives more than anyone else in this world!! Good luck, babe =) | I don't know what the F*** to do? I don't really know why I keep coming on here venting. I guess to let it out. I'm just sick with disgust over my wife leaving me for a chick. Why would she do that to me? We have a F***** family man! I f***** up real bad yesterday. I really upset her and our son by talking crap about her. My son asked me why his mom and I are not living together and it just flicked a nerve. I told him because his mom didn't love me and she was a dyke. He said whats that and I was like ask you mom. Apparently he did and she called me up furious. I know it was wrong, but I am so f****** mad I don't know what to do. I beat the s*** out of my punching bag every night trying to get out the pain. I was f****** used for 8 years by this B**** and then she dumps me for some girl. Am I wrong for being this angry? I don't know how to be mature about this and I realy don't want to be! Whats up with chicks doing chicks. I will tell you, I thought it was hot my whole life until my wife actually left me for a chick. Now, I'm sick and I can't look at it even if I tried. What can I do to shake this sick feeling. I still love her. I can't lose her to a girl man, I just can't. Why are people gay? I'm serious so don't give me no stupid a** answer. Why are people into doing your own kind? I don't see anything natural about and my whole life I was told it was a choice. I don't believe you are born that way! If that was true then why wasn't I or anyone else in my family? What the gene that says your gay? | So help me God, why do you keep doing this.? I am not trying to put our business out on display but you have blocked me for your email and you won't answer the phone. I tried explaining this to you. It isn't your fault and I have apologized a million times and asked you for forgiveness. I never meant to hurt you and I would take it all back if I could. You know how my whole family is and you know why I tried to stay in our marriage. I was scared to be me. I know I hurt you, but this is awful. If you want to rant and rave that is fine, but what you did to our son was awful. Please quit trying to find new and improved ways to embarrass me. You and I seriously need to talk, quit putting our life out on blast. Please answer your phone! This is really embarrassing Mike!
Seeing how my life is being put out on blast, I will tell you this. I didn't walk away from my husband and my guyren. My babies are with me and I have told them that our paths went separate ways. I am not prepared to explain to an 8 or 5 year old that I am a lesbian and I don't think at this age with all that is going on it is appropiate. I wanted to be able to have a friendship with you Mike, to raise our guyren as a team and be friends and make decisions together. This is hard enough for ALL of us regardless of what you think. I care very much for you and to see that I have hurt you this bad is killing me, but I can't continue to live a lie. You just put more confusion in a 5 year olds head on top of the confusion of you not being there everyday...can you PLEASE answer your phone so we can talk. | Serious Question about Females in the Coast Guard? I’m a 31 year old woman, but I “look young” and am in pretty good shape (can actually meet the male standards for guys under 30). I’m also a bit of a “late bloomer” psychologically. I didn’t have the desire to make a difference/serve my country in my 20’s because I was too self-centered and full of myself, but now I’m ready and eager to make the world a better place and have some adventure. I’m also mature enough to follow orders now (not the same rebel I once was although I still have a bit of an independent/“free thinker” streak, lol). Anyway, I am too old for active duty which I believe ends at 27, but I have been thinking about becoming a reservist. Thing is, I’m a “hot chick” (not my opinion – others have said this). I’m also “smart” (scored a 1300 on the SAT, got a math degree, etc.). I’m not trying to brag about my looks or intelligence or anything; I’m actually a very down to earth person who is content doing “grunt” work, but it’s just that my qualities seem to threaten/offend some guys. I’m not some over the top feminist or anything, but I am sort of an “independent woman”, I guess you might say (i.e. not married yet involved in a LT open relationship, like sex, am bisexual (for my own pleasure not to please guys), dislike guys who act like cavemen – hopefully you get the idea). I’m not “in your face” with it, and I certainly think it would be stupid to fraternize with fellow coasties (I don’t want to go there), but I just don’t want folks thinking I’m a whore that they can abuse based on what I do on my own time in my personal life. I don’t want to be raped because some douche thinks I shouldn’t been there because I’m a woman or thinks I need to be “put in my place.” I’ve been sexually harassed a lot throughout my life, but luckily, I’ve never been raped. I really don’t want to be raped. I mean, who would want this? I like sex, but I like choice and enjoying it more. Anyhow, I’ve heard that rape is rampant in the military. Could other gals or even guys who love their sisters and moms please tell me the truth about what it’s like. Is it likely, I’ll be raped? Maybe I should go with Peace Corps or something less testosterone charged? I don’t know. I do want adventure, though... I am somewhat androgynous yet on the feminine side (i.e. not a dyke). I'm not afraid to die. I'm not afraid to see "bad things". I'm not afraid to kill if necessary. I wouldn't want to be raped by anybody, but if it was by the enemy, I could eventually overcome it. I couldn't handle being raped by our own people, though, especially if the commanders tried to dust it under the rug and silence me for "morale" reasons. This would totally ruin me... I'd probably kill myself, seriously. | find your local coast guard reserve station, and hang out on a drill weekend. talk to all the women and men who work there. ask all the questions you can think of.
I spent 14 years in the military, and i don't know a single woman who was raped. I see news stories, and media hype, but never any statistics. i really think rape in the military has been made a tabloid story to sell news. |
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